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PostSubject: Coat of arms' requests   Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:57 pm

In the Royal Heraldry Palace, the new King of Arms had ordered the establishment of a hall destined to receive to those noble ones who brought requests of validation of coats of arms, or would ask for creating one. In the hall there was a lot of expensive furniture, and a red persian carpet lays in the floor. Pictures of ancient Kings of an old and distant time could be admired in the walls, and everything rested in silence in that place…

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PostSubject: Re: Coat of arms' requests   Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:09 am

Charles-Edouard decided to send all documents he had to the Royal Heraldry.

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To Sir Gweddry, King of Arms of England.
14th day of March of the year 1651.

Mylord,
I send you my family tree, I am sorry for not having translated and hope you can understand it!
I would like to recieve an official seal and a coat of arms for my position as regent of Middlesex.

If you have any question, please contact me.

Charles-Edouard of Montgomery


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MAISON DE MONTGOMERY (BRANCHE CADETTE)


Blasonnement : de gueules à trois fleurs de lys d'or chargé d'un chevron d'hermine.

• Prime génération

Feu Alexander, 1er Lord Montgomery * (1378/1428)
= épouse feue Margaret Boyd + * (1380/1433)

• Seconde génération

De l'union légitime de Alexander, 1er Lord Montgomery et Margaret Boyd

2. Eduard 1er de Montgomery * (1426/1490)
= épouse Elisabeth O'Grady *

1. Feu John de Montgomery * (1400/1445)
= épouse feue Marie d’Aussigny *
(Débarque en France 1423. Archer de la Garde Ecossaise de Charles VII, naturalisé 1433)

• Tierce génération

De l'union légitime de Eduard 1er de Montgomery et de Elisabeth O'Grady

2.1 Charles de Montgomery *,(1453/1501)
= épouse Jayne Terrell *

De l'union légitime de John de Montgomery et Marie d’Aussigny

1.1. Robert (alias René) de Montgomery *,(1425/1486)
= épouse Léone Dame de Lorges *

• Quatrième génération

De l'union légitime de Charles de Montgomery et de Jayne Terrell.

2.1.1 Eduard II de Montgomery *(1489/1571)
= épouse Juliet Black *

De l'union légitime de Robert (alias René) de Montgomery et de Léone de Loddes.

1.1.1. Jacques 1er de Montgomery *(1485/1562)
Comte de Montgomery (1545) (terre achetée à François d’Orléans, marquis de Rothelin),capitaine des Cent Archers Ecossais (1542), capitaine général de l’arrière-ban, décoré de l’Ordre de Saint-Michel (05/08/1545)
= épouse Claudine de La Boissière*, Dame de Ducey (Normandie)

• Cinquième génération

De l'union légitime de Eduard II de Montgomery et de Juliet Black.

2.1.1.1 Jasper de Montgomery *(1539/1593)
= épouse Kadence O'Murphy *

De l'union légitime de Jacques 1er de Montgomery et de Claudine de La Boissière.

1.1.1.1. Gabriel 1er de Montgomery *(1530/1574)
Comte de Montgomery, Seigneur de Ducey (1550)
Officier de la Garde Ecossaise (1547)
Blesse mortellement le roi Henri II lors d’un tournoi aux Tournelles (Paris, 29/06/1559)
= épouse Elisabeth (alias Isabelle) de La Touche (1530/1593)

• Sixième génération

De l'union légitime de Jasper de Montgomery et de Kadence O'Murphy

2.1.1.1.1 Frank de Montgomery *(1581/...)
= épouse Hilda O´Conner *

De l'union légitime de Gabriel 1er de Montgomery et d'Elisabeth de La Touche

1.1.1.1.1. Gabriel II de Montgomery *(1560/1648)
Comte de Montgomery
= épouse Suzanne de Bouquetot

• Septième génération

De l'union légitime de Frank de Montgomery et de Hilda O´Conner

2.1.1.1.1.1 Charles-Edouard de Montgomery (1629/...)
Baptisé.
Baron de Brecqhou, Chevalier de l'ordre Guillaume le Conquérant, Commandeur de la Garde Princière.

De l'union légitime de Gabriel II de Montgomery et de Suzanne de Bouquetot.

1.1.1.1.1.1. Ramsay de Montgomery (1627/1650)
Baptisé le 4 novembre 1648 à l'Eglise Paroissiale Pascale de Paris par Jean Lambert.
Comte de Montgomery, Chevalier Grand Croix et Grand Maître de l'Ordre Royal de Saint-Louis, Gentilhomme, Héraut de France.
= épouse Iseult (Baptisée le 13 novembre 1648 à l'Eglise Paroissiale Pascale de Paris par Jean Lambert.)
(Mariage célébré le 21/11/1648 à la Cathédrale Notre Dame de Paris par le Camerlingue Lambert des Traits.)
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PostSubject: Re: Coat of arms' requests   Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:08 pm

A messenger arrived holding some papers in his hand. He was sent by the Lord High Steward.

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Your Excellency,

Hereby I want to see being confirmed the following coat of arms, as they will represent my function as Lord High Steward of the Kingdom of England, Scotland and Ireland. If there must be made some modifications I ask you to make them as they will accord with the Heraldic rules of the Kingdom.

I thank you,

Frits Frederic Bazain.



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PostSubject: Re: Coat of arms' requests   Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:33 pm

The King of Arms recived to letters that afternoon. Quickly, he went to his office in the Heraldry Palace, he took his feather and wetting it with the ink in a little bottle on the table, he responded the letters:

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    Heraldry Palace of England
    14th day of March of the year 1651,




    To His Excellency Charles-Edouard, Regent of Middlesex:


    Noble Regent, I translated the facts of your family tree and I adapted the document to te English customs and format. However, I didn't translate the noble titles of you and your family, because they are foreigners titles, and I think that they should be unaltered. I annex to the letter a copy of the modified document. If you agree, I will include it inmediatly in the "Noble Houses Registers". I consider that yours is a English Noble House that must be recognized: your work and the fact that you have been Mayor of London, and now you are Regent of Middlesex, is enough to recognize it as such.

    About the coat of arms and the seals, I know that only Earls have ornaments (crown and mantle in blazon) that represents their position. Unfortunately, there isn't specifics ornaments to Regents of a County. But, obviously, you could have a coat of arms because you have a position. I could be your House's shield "parti", with something that represents Middlesex in the second part. What do you think?

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      MAISON DE MONTGOMERY (BRANCHE CADETTE)



      Informations about the House of Montgomery:

      Blazon: Gules, with three liz flowers of gold, charged with a ermine's chevron.

      • First Generation


      Feu Alexander, 1er Lord Montgomery (1378/1428)
      = Wife Margaret Boyd + (1380/1433)

      • Second Generation


      From the legitime union of Alexander, 1er Lord Montgomery et Margaret Boyd

      Eduard 1er de Montgomery (1426/1490)
      = Wife Elisabeth O'Grady

      Feu John de Montgomery (1400/1445)
      = Wife Marie d’Aussigny

      (Unload in France 1423. Archer of the Scottish Guard of Charles VII, naturalized in 1433)

      • Third generation


      From the legitime union of Eduard 1er de Montgomery and Elisabeth O'Grady

      Charles de Montgomery,(1453/1501)
      = Wife Jayne Terrell

      From the legitime union of John de Montgomery and Marie d’Aussigny

      Robert (alias René) de Montgomery ,(1425/1486)
      = Wife Léone Dame de Lorges

      • Fourth generation


      From the legitime union of Charles de Montgomery and Jayne Terrell.

      Eduard II de Montgomery (1489/1571)
      = Wife Juliet Black

      From the legitime union of Robert (alias René) de Montgomery and Léone de Loddes.

      Jacques 1er de Montgomery (1485/1562)

      Comte de Montgomery (1545) (lands bought to François d'Orleans, Marquis de Rothelin), capitaine des Cent Archers Ecossais (1542), capitaine général de l’arrière-ban, décoré de l’Ordre de Saint-Michel (05/08/1545)

      = Wife Claudine de La Boissière, Dame de Ducey (Normandie)

      • Fifth generation


      From the legitime union of Eduard II de Montgomery and Juliet Black.

      Jasper de Montgomery (1539/1593)
      = Wife Kadence O'Murphy

      From the legitime union of Jacques 1er de Montgomery and Claudine de La Boissière.

      Gabriel 1er de Montgomery (1530/1574)

      Comte de Montgomery, Seigneur de Ducey (1550)

      Officier de la Garde Ecossaise (1547)

      Wound mortally the King Henri II in the tournament of Tournelles (Paris, 29/06/1559)

      = Wife Elisabeth (alias Isabelle) de La Touche (1530/1593)

      • Sixth generation

      From the legitime union of Jasper de Montgomery and Kadence O'Murphy

      Frank de Montgomery (1581/...)
      = Wife Hilda O´Conner

      From the legitime union of Gabriel 1er de Montgomery and d'Elisabeth de La Touche

      Gabriel II de Montgomery (1560/1648)

      Comte de Montgomery

      = Wife Suzanne de Bouquetot

      • Seventh generation


      From the legitime union of Frank de Montgomery and Hilda O´Conner

      2.1.1.1.1.1 Charles-Edouard de Montgomery (1629/...)

      Baptisé.

      Baron de Brecqhou, Chevalier de l'ordre Guillaume le Conquérant, Commandeur de la Garde Princière.

      Regent of Middlesex

      From the legitime union of Gabriel II de Montgomery and Suzanne de Bouquetot.

      Ramsay de Montgomery (1627/1650)

      Baptisé le 4 novembre 1648 à l'Eglise Paroissiale Pascale de Paris par Jean Lambert.

      Comte de Montgomery, Chevalier Grand Croix et Grand Maître de l'Ordre Royal de Saint-Louis, Gentilhomme, Héraut de France.

      = Wife Iseult (Baptisée le 13 novembre 1648 à l'Eglise Paroissiale Pascale de Paris par Jean Lambert.)

      (Mariage célébré le 21/11/1648 à la Cathédrale Notre Dame de Paris par le Camerlingue Lambert des Traits.)

Signed,

Sir Gweddry.

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PostSubject: Re: Coat of arms' requests   Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:12 pm

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    Heraldry Palace of England
    15th day of March of the year 1651,




    To His Excellency Frits Frederic Bazain, Lord High Steward and Lord High Chancellor of our Kingdom:


    Mylord, that coat of arms is totally correct. I will add it to the registries inmediatly. Do you need a smaller copy of your coat of arms for the top of the letters you send?

    Signed,

    Sir Gweddry.

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PostSubject: Re: Coat of arms' requests   Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:37 am

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The sixteenth day of March 1651,
At the Palace of Whitehall, Office of the Lord Steward,

I, His Excellency Frits Frederic Bazain,
To you, Your Excellency, King of Arms of England.


Your Excellency,

I have to thank you for the quick answer! And yes, it would be nice if you could reduce it so I can put it at the top of my letters and other official documents!

With kind regards,

His Excellency,
F.F. Bazain

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PostSubject: Re: Coat of arms' requests   Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:32 am

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To Sir Gweddry, King of Arms of England.
22th day of March of the year 1651.

Mylord,
I would love to wear the colors of my country. Could you please send me the new coat of arms and make me maybe some seal to sign official documents?

Charles-Edouard of Montgomery
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PostSubject: Re: Coat of arms' requests   Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:30 am

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    Heraldry Palace of England
    23th day of April of the year 1651




    To His Excellency Charles-Edouard, Regent of Middlesex:

    Noble Regent, first at all, I should apologize for my lateness. This is your coat of arms:



    About seals, I can say that I'm not mastered making seals, but I will try to learn.

    Signed,

    Sir Gweddry.

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